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July 1, 2000


THE HISTORY PROJECT COLLECTION CONTINUES TO GROW

On April 10th, Tony Prohaska and Martha Kalser deposited an additional 14 completed interviews and an updated index with the Pennypacker Long Island Collection of the East Hampton Library. This brings to 50 the number of transcribed and indexed interviews in The Collection along with 500 accompanying photographs and other printed materials donated by our subjects. Michele Allison continues to enjoy her work and is producing about one transcription a week. She sends them to our new location in Florida, where we check them against the original audiotapes, index them and mount them in binders, with their accompanying photographs. We will be coming back to East Hampton in October and bringing many new interviews to be added to The Collection.

OUTSIDE INTEREST IN THE PROJECT

You may remember that George DeWan of Newsday has used excerpts from several of
our interviews to produce full-page articles in their "Long Island Our Story"section. Now, we have given permission for an excerpt from our interviews with Abigail Field, to be included in two Terra Nova Reading and Language Arts Tests, which are used by elementary schools throughout the country. Abigail Field was 102 this year and it's wonderful to know that her story will live on, not only in the hearts of her neighbors on Long Island, but will now reach a far wider audience.

 

IN MEMORIAM

We note, with sadness, the passing of Carl Jennett, interviewed in November, 1977, Tony Moltisanti, interviewed in March, 1998 and Sis Gardell, interviewed in March, 1997. Their interviews join those of others who have gone, but whose words live on in The History Project collection.



RECOLLECTIONS…
Dorothy Vollmer Jones (age 90), recalled what it was like to be a schoolteacher in the 1930's in East

Hampton. "Oh, we were above reproach. We weren't able to take a drink, we weren't able to smoke. And I remember that, um, one time, do you remember Alice Hughes? And Helen Bond? They had been there, they were older than we were. And they took us down to the water so we could have a cigarette down there, and we'd be looking around to see if anybody was looking. (Laughter) Oh, yes, it was fine at that time. And I guess we, we went down there and had a drink. …Skipper [Leon Q. Brooks, Principal of East Hampton Middle School] used to say when we first got there, 'If you want to kick up your heels in any way, if you want to smoke or if you want to drink, go to the other side of the Shinnecock Canal. Just, just (laughter) don't, don't, don't do anything this side of the Shinnecock Canal.'"



Norton "Bucket" Daniels
recalls "Then in school, in sixth grade I had Helen Bond. I was supposed to have
Irene Hedges, but in 1932, the school board decided because of complaints from the people, 'cause that was the start of the Depression, that no married teacher should teach, because that would be two incomes coming in for one family. 'Cause the husband's working and the wife, it's not fair."

Your continued support is needed.

Even with the library's help, we still need funds to cover our expenses. We hate to keep asking, but we have two more years to go until The Project is finished and our expenses will continue until then.

INTERVIEWS CONTINUE IN FLORIDA

Even though we have substantially completed the interviewing phase of our project, here in Florida, there are still more people to talk to. In the past few months we talked with…

Mary Venegas, (age 97) whose husband was well known locally as a ham radio operator. Just prior to World War II he operated an electrical
supply business in East Hampton Village. During the War, her husband was unable to get electrical parts because of shortages and finally had to close the business, leaving a number of people owing them money. Mary told us that although some members of the "summer colony" never paid their bills, each and every Bonacker paid them every penny, even if they had to pay them off over time.

Bill Bain told us about growing up while his father was running Rowe's Pharmacy on the corner of
Newtown Lane and Main St. Rowe's was an institution in East Hampton. Eventually, Bill went to college, became a pharmacist and took over the business from his father. In Bill's and his father's time, pharmacists actually mixed all their elixirs and compounds on the premises. Now retired in Florida, Bill has all the old chemical jars and ingredient bottles on shelves in his living room. Photographs of these reminders of olden days will be added to the Bain interviews. Frances Bain, nee Griffing, told us about her family and her childhood in East Hampton and the years helping Bill run the soda fountain and the pharmacy.

Michele Allison has been working for the East Hampton Library since November. Her primary responsibility is to transcribe The History Project interviews. Now that Michele has been working on The Project for 8 months, we have asked her to share her thoughts with us. This is what she would like you to know.

As the work of transcribing the tapes goes on (steadily, but slowly) I am more and more impressed by the importance and value of these interviews. Each voice on tape is a unique perspective on the vanishing way of life on the East End. This wealth of information is an unduplicatable resource about the history of this particular place and the people who lived here over the last hundred years.

The work of transcribing, editing, indexing, and assembling each interview into book form takes between two and three weeks. Nearly 175 interviews have been taped; only 70 have been completed and over 100 remain to be done. Speeding this process by adding additional transcribers ought to be a priority, as several transcribers working simultaneously would bring the completed books up to pace with the completed interviews.

The value of The History Project is realized through its use. Housed in the Long Island Collection of The East Hampton Library, it's a tremendous resource for the community. But the value of these stories goes beyond the East End. As the Long Island Collection slowly works to get parts of its collection online, The History Project should also be made available to a universal audience. The interviews ought to be available to students, historians, sociologists, genealogists, and those who simply enjoy listening to tales of the past. Far too much work and effort has gone into collecting the interviews, and they are too rich a resource to be limited to patrons of The East Hampton Library.

As with most good ideas, what is needed is hard work, commitment, and money to bring them to fruition. Martha and Tony contribute much of all of these things, but the Project requires, and is worthy of, more than what the three of us can provide. Please continue your valuable support of this work so we can put this project out into the world.
                                          ... Michele Allison

TONY'S COLUMN I remember being surprised, while interviewing Bill Jenkins of Amagansett, that he'd had Mrs. F. Norton Griffing as a teacher. So did I, albeit more than twenty years later. While conducting interviews, I see that I became interested in who else had Mrs. Griffing, and then, in East Hampton, who had Miss Ebell, Mr. Thayer, et al.

Elsie Edwards
, one of the more forthright people we've talked to, explained the friction between Laura Ebell [History] and Mrs. (Ethel Sherman) Shiffleger. [English} "Ebell drove 'Shifty' nuts, " she said, "because she piled on the homework. I used to go get reference books and my father said, "What in the world are you doing breaking your back, bringing all that stuff home for? You know you'll never get

through it.' Nobody dared go to history class unless their homework was done. And so they just slighted the English. And oh, it made Shifty so mad!" Well, all I can say is, it was still going on when I was in school. People would copy the same thing over and over…write nursery rhymes, anything to get more papers. Laura Ebell was out of control, and for generations nobody dared stop her.



In Amagansett, in the 50's, a spinsterish, little white-haired woman, taught 5th grade. Her name was Miss Ward. She used to do magic tricks, the kind with a coin. She'd pick a coin out of your ear or rub it into your elbow and make it disappear. All the kids loved her. My sister was in her class the year she died. In interviewing Harrison
Schneider, I learned that it was he who had to go looking for her when she didn't show up at school that day. He found her in her garage, slumped over the steering wheel; the crack under the garage door stopped up with rags. My sister had bad luck with teachers in grade school. The following year, Marion (Mrs. F. Norton) Griffing, (wife of Toby Griffing who owned a small dairy on Atlantic Avenue in Amagansett.) without warning, dropped her head down on her desk and expired in front of the whole class. She had been an force to be reckoned with in Amagansett, a strict disciplinarian, quick to accurately analyze any problem child, and full of old time sayings, especially those of Ben Franklin. Empty wagons make the most noise, was one of her favorites.

In East Hampton, Pop Cheney seems to have gone back to The Year One. At one time, he was coach of the football team. That was before Sprig Gardner came. In fact there were two other coaches, Kuhn and McGaughley, before Sprig came. That's according to Bucket Daniels, whose memory is steel-trap, especially about sports.

Pop Cheney was still there, although an old man, when I was in EH High School (1956 - 1960). I was in the same class as his son, Pete. Pete has given me permission to tell the following story:

If it weren't for his old man, I'd still be in high school. After I got kicked out of Harry Thayer's class (Now HE would take a book!) in my freshman year, for being terrified both of him and of algebra, I had to take the class over in the summer, with Pop. He "assisted" me, with both his eraser and pencil. "Well, lets see," he'd say, working out the answer to the problem on paper, "does this like right?" "Mm hm. Mm hm, " I'd say. "Well then, the answer must be this, right?" And I'd fill in the blank with the correct answer…and so it would go.

Today's teachers are considered hip and outrageous if they wear jeans and let you call them by their first names. In the old days, they had personalities like Greek gods.
                                                                                                                    ... Tony Prohaska

 


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